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tamilmani231088 SEFI Member


Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 13
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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 6:14 am Post subject: IS - 800:2007 |
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Hi Mr.Subramaniam sir,
I've a question regarding IS 800 newer version
What r d differences between IS 800:1984 & IS 800:2007 apart from Working stress n limit states design??
Can u please kindly post it??? |
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drnsmani General Sponsor


Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Posts: 1825 Location: Gaithersburg, MD, U.S.A.
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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:41 pm Post subject: Re: IS - 800:2007 |
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Dear Er Tamilmani,
Kindly attend any one of the courses or workshops organized by INSDAG or IIT or any Engg. college or buy a book and read. A workshop is organized in Kerala in a few days.
It is impossible for any busy person to answer a general question like this.
Best wishes,
NS
| tamilmani231088 wrote: | Hi Mr.Subramaniam sir,
I've a question regarding IS 800 newer version
What r d differences between IS 800:1984 & IS 800:2007 apart from Working stress n limit states design??
Can u please kindly post it??? |
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bharsoda SEFI Stars


Joined: 19 Jan 2009 Posts: 612 Location: GUJARAT, INDIA
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Er. Tamilmani,
Refer Link:-
http://www.steel-insdag.org/new/contents.asp
INSDAG literature is as per IS 800 : 2007,You can find following chapters at link:-
No. 1 HISTORICAL DEVELOPMENT AND CHARACTERISTICS OF STRUCTURAL STEELS
No. 2 CORROSION, FIRE PROTECTION AND FATIGUE CONSIDERATIONS OF STEEL STRUCTURES
No. 3 ROLE OF STRUCTURAL ENGINEER IN THE 21st CENTURY
No. 4 INTRODUCTION TO LIMIT STATES
No. 5 DESIGN OF TENSION MEMBERS
No. 6 INTRODUCTION TO COLUMN BUCKLING
No. 7 INTRODUCTION TO PLATE BUCKLING
No. 8 LOCAL BUCKLING AND SECTION CLASSIFICATION
No. 9 LATERALLY RESTRAINED BEAMS
No. 10 DESIGN OF AXIALLY LOADED COLUMNS
No. 11 UNRESTRAINED BEAM DESIGN – I
No. 12 UNRESTRAINED BEAM DESIGN – II
No. 13 DESIGN OF BEAM-COLUMNS - I
No. 14 DESIGN OF BEAM-COLUMNS - II
No. 14 (Ex) DESIGN OF BEAM-COLUMNS - II (Worked Out Examples)
No. 15 PLATE GIRDERS - I
No. 16 PLATE GIRDERS – II
No. 16 (Ex) PLATE GIRDERS – II (Worked Out Examples)
No. 17 BEAMS SUBJECTED TO TORSION AND BENDING -I
No. 18 BEAMS SUBJECTED TO TORSION AND BENDING - II
No. 19 COLD FORMED STEEL SECTIONS – I
No. 20 COLD FORMED STEEL SECTIONS- II
No. 21 COMPOSITE BEAMS – I
No. 22 COMPOSITE BEAMS – II
No. 23 COMPOSITE FLOORS - I
No. 24 COMPOSITE FLOORS - II
No. 24 (Ex) COMPOSITE FLOORS - II (Worked Out Examples)
No. 25 STEEL-CONCRETE COMPOSITE COLUMNS-I
No. 26 STEEL-CONCRETE COMPOSITE COLUMNS-II
No. 27 TRUSSES
No. 28 STEEL BEAMS WITH WEB OPENINGS
No. 29 CONNECTION DESIGN – DESIGN REQUIREMENTS
No. 30 WELDS – STATIC AND FATIGUE STRENGTH – I
No. 31 WELDS- STATIC AND FATIGUE STRENGTH – II
No. 31 (Ex) WELDS- STATIC AND FATIGUE STRENGTH – II (Worked Out Examples)
No. 32 WELD - STATIC AND FATIGUE STRENGTH -III
No. 33 BOLTED CONNECTIONS – I
No. 34 BOLTED CONNECTIONS – II
No. 34 (Ex) BOLTED CONNECTIONS – II (Worked Out Examples)
No. 35 PLASTIC ANALYSIS
No. 36 PORTAL FRAMES
No. 36 (Ex) COMPOSITE FLOORS - I
No. 37 MULTI-STOREY BUILDINGS - I
No. 38 MULTI-STOREY BUILDINGS - II
No. 38 (Ex) MULTI-STOREY BUILDINGS - II (Worked Out Examples)
No. 39 MULTI-STOREY BUILDINGS – III
No. 40 MULTI – STOREY BUILDINGS – IV
No. 41 FABRICATION AND ERECTION OF STRUCTURAL STEELWORK
No. 42 LEARNING FROM FAILURES: CASE STUDIES
No. 43 STEEL BRIDGES - I
No. 44 STEEL BRIDGES -II
No. 44 (Ex) COMPOSITE FLOORS - I
No. 45 EARTHQUAKE RESISTANT DESIGN OF STEEL STRUCTURES
No. 45 (Ex) EARTHQUAKE RESISTANT DESIGN OF STEEL STRUCTURES (Worked Out Examples)
Best Wishes
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Regards,
B.V Harsoda, B.E. (Civil), MIE (I), CEng. |
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AMIT DUTT SEFI Member

Joined: 23 Feb 2010 Posts: 10
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:27 pm Post subject: INSDAG literature |
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Dear . B.V Harsoda Sir,
The INSDAG literature is as per IS 800 : 2007 you have provided has a wealth of information . It will be very helpful for engineers who want to understand the code & steel structures behavior _________________ With Regards
AMIT DUTT
B.E.(CIVIL)
M.TECH(STRUCTURES) |
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tamilmani231088 SEFI Member


Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 13
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Anyone know when next workshop or conference conducted by INSDAG will b held?? |
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AMIT DUTT SEFI Member

Joined: 23 Feb 2010 Posts: 10
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 6:19 am Post subject: steel connection design |
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Dear Sefi members,
Are there any courses in IIT Delhi or in other engineering college for only Steel Connection Design ?
Can anyone suggest me with a good literature/book for the connection design.
My office library has the Blodget book but I want to refer some other literature /books _________________ With Regards
AMIT DUTT
B.E.(CIVIL)
M.TECH(STRUCTURES) |
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bharsoda SEFI Stars


Joined: 19 Jan 2009 Posts: 612 Location: GUJARAT, INDIA
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Er. Amit,
Thanks for appreciation
Best Wishes
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Regards,
B.V Harsoda, B.E. (Civil), MIE (I), CEng. |
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drnsmani General Sponsor


Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Posts: 1825 Location: Gaithersburg, MD, U.S.A.
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 1:28 am Post subject: Re: steel connection design |
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Dear Amit Dutt,
Connection design is more important for any type of structure. The following book from USA is famous but is old.
1. Kulak, G.L., Fisher, J.W. and Struik, J.H.A, Guide to Design Criteria for Bolted and Riveted Joints, Second edition, John Wiley, New York, 1987, 309 pp.
Another nice book from UK
2. Owens, G.W., and Cheal, B.D., Structural Steelwork Connections, Butterworths, London, 1989, 330 pp.
3. Hicks, J. Welded Joint Design, Third ed., Industrial Press, 2000, 141 pp.
4. Hollow Structural section connections Manual, AISC, 1997.
5. Marshall, P.W., Design of Welded Tubular Connections – Basis and Use of AWS Code Provisions, Elsevier, 1991, 412 pp.
6. Mazzolani, ed., Moment Resistant Connections of Steel Frames in Seismic Areas: Design and Reliability, E & FN Spon, London, 2000, 644 pp.
7. Murray, T.M., Extended end-plate moment connections, Steel Design Guide Series 4, American Institute of Steel Construction, Chicago, 1990.
8. Packer, J.A., and Henderson, J.E., Hollow Structural Section Connections and Trusses-A Design Guide, Second edition, Canadian Institute of Steel Construction, Toronto, Canada, June 1997, 447 pp
9. Tamboli, A.R., Handbook of Structural Steel Connection Design and Details, 2nd edition, McGraw Hill, New York, 2009, 656 pp.
You may also refer this book
10.Salmon, C.G., Johnson, J.E. and Malhas, F.A., Steel Structures, Design and Behavior, Fifth edition, Harper Collins College Publishers, New York, 2008, 888pp.
Best wishes,
Subramanian
| AMIT DUTT wrote: | Dear Sefi members,
Are there any courses in IIT Delhi or in other engineering college for only Steel Connection Design ?
Can anyone suggest me with a good literature/book for the connection design.
My office library has the Blodget book but I want to refer some other literature /books |
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bijay sarkar Wise Person

Joined: 14 Dec 2009 Posts: 59
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Sefians,
I think it will be better if a discussion is held on the topic of connection design though this is a vast topic like analysis & design of members. There are numerous types of connections, one differing from others and most failures in structural steel happens due to inadequate connection strength. We emphasize on analysis and also discuss the topics related with member design only but do not give much attention/discussion on the connection design. Structural Members are worthless, if connection is not compliant. This is an important topic which should get the importance of discussion in sefi.
with regards,
Bijay Sarkar
M-09748510409 |
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drnsmani General Sponsor


Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Posts: 1825 Location: Gaithersburg, MD, U.S.A.
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:59 am Post subject: |
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Hi All,
In Clause 8.4.2.2(b) of IS 800:2007, in the Tension field method of plate girders, the code gives the value of φ, the inclination of tension field as arctan (d/c).
The above equation given in the code is correct for θ (slope of the panel diagonal). In fact, the value of φ ranges between θ/2 to θ. The minimum value of θ/2 applies when the flanges are fully utilized in resisting the applied bending moment and the maximum value of θ applies when there is complete tension field, with s = c. Any assumed value between θ /2 and θ is conservative. Eurocode suggests an approximate value of φ = θ/1.5. If we use φ = θ/1.5, the additional strength due to tension field will be considerable than when we use the equation given in the code, resulting in economy.
In the same clause, in the equation for wtf, the + sign after cos φ should be changed to - sign-otherwise, you will get erroneous values, such as the width of the tension field calculated as greater than the distance between stiffeners!
Hope this helps!
Best wishes,
Subramanian |
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