| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
raveeleo SEFI Stars


Joined: 22 Dec 2008 Posts: 114 Location: Bangalore
|
Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:18 am Post subject: What type of soil is suitable for back filling |
|
|
Dear SEFI'ans
Hat's off to Er. Mr. N Subramanian sir, Er. Mr.T Rangarajan sir, Er. Mr.Vivek, Er. Mr.Suraj, Er. Mr.Vikrem jeet, Er. Mr Malik, Er. Mr. Indrajir, Er. Ms Sangeeta Wij..... and the list is Endless for your support to the STRUCTURAL ENGINEERS.
I've been ON an OFF to SEFI, and also miss a lot of Tempting/debatable/interesting and many more topics in SEFI, since there is no internet access i our office.
back to the query
1. What type of soil is suitable for back filling?
2. The soil is excavated with the attached Properties.
3. Is there any standard value w.r.t the attached test Report
4. the Test Concucted by Ventateswara University
Thank You all
GOD BLESS
ravee Kumar C K
| Description: |
|
| Filesize: |
130.43 KB |
| Viewed: |
24 Time(s) |

|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
vikram.jeet SEFI Stars

Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Posts: 854
|
Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:01 pm Post subject: What type of soil is suitable for back filling |
|
|
Dear Er Ravi Kumar ,
In case of an earth retaining structure
Free draining coarse grained soils are most suitable for backfill material
behind abutments and other earth retaining structures.Further a 600 mm
thick uniform layer of filter media shall also be provided at back of wall
for full height from backfilled level. Weep holes at spacing not exceeding
1.0m in both directions in wall need to be provided for release of hydrostatic
pressure.
Kindly refer to IRC 78 Appendix-6 wherein properties of backfill
materials are provided on basis of anticipated embankment
performance.
In case of building Basements
The excavated earth is generally used as backfilled material with
plinth protection all- around the building.Basement wall outer surface
must have protective water proofing .
best regards
vikramjeet
--
Posted via Email
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
suraj General Sponsor


Joined: 17 Apr 2008 Posts: 1334 Location: NCR Faridabad, E mail suraj_engineer@yahoo.co.uk
|
Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 4:57 pm Post subject: Soil Samples |
|
|
Soil Samples
Sample 1 appears to be better.
Silt & Clay being 14.2%
Liquid Limit being OK in both samples
PI should be around 6
Max DD is better in sample 1
OMC is OK in both cases.
Properties of sand not mentioned.
In case, sand is coarse, fine sand can be added to reduce the LL.
In fact, non plastic fill material is most suitable.
It could be selected from excavated material or imported from source.
It can also depend whether or not, fill is meant for below structures or non structures or general layers.
Regards
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
raveeleo SEFI Stars


Joined: 22 Dec 2008 Posts: 114 Location: Bangalore
|
Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 5:16 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Dear all
Extremly sorry for not mentioninig the Purpose.
Thanks to Suraj sir
The Purpose is to back fill on the foundations
This Soil is excavated and the same soil is used to backfill to a depth of 1.75m
ravee
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
suraj General Sponsor


Joined: 17 Apr 2008 Posts: 1334 Location: NCR Faridabad, E mail suraj_engineer@yahoo.co.uk
|
Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 6:58 pm Post subject: Fills |
|
|
Fills
For structural fill, 98 % FD is required
For non structural fills, 95 % FD is adequate.
For general fills, 90 to 95% FD is adequate.
For fills more than 1 m below foundations, 90 to 95% Fd would do.
Check which composition provides such FD
Regards
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
sspawar SEFI Stars


Joined: 05 Jun 2009 Posts: 550
|
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:05 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Dear Mr. Ravee and all
My findings are as follows:
1. What type of soil is suitable for back filling?
§. Both samples are OK for the purpose of backfill.
The excavated earth is generally used as backfilled material if its suitablilty has been tested- unlike If BC soil is taken out - it will not be suitable for back fill.
2. The soil is excavated with the attached Properties.
§.OK, the whole soil strata is good for back filling on/around foundations.
3. Is there any standard value w.r.t the attached test Report
§.Yes, There are certain Standard values - as diffferent limits and ranges are specified in MORTH Specification as well as IRC 78, though these specs are related to Roads & Bridges and air field works. But it can be adapted for any backfilling ( Filling around and above foundations)
Secondly in IS 1498-1970, some guide lines with characteristics are given.
Refer attached Doc file.
4. the Test Concucted by Ventateswara University
§.Two test samples are exibiting - little uncommon report.
Where in two samples (silt+ clay) percent is 14.6% and 49.15%, and respective FSI and PI are being decreased. Generally it should be incresed.
Such behavior of soil would be more clear, if complete Sieve analysis result will be given.( from coarser to finer - 75mm---- 4.75mm --- 2mm --- 425 μ----- 75μ ---- residuals)
Regards
| Description: |
| Backfill density shown in Morth is 1.75 g/cc -it means upper one meter (500subgrade+ 500 below subgrade),if back fill is deeper like 1.75 meter ( your case ) lower 750mm can be of 1.6g/cc or even of low density. it depends on what is the use of top surfac |
|
 Download |
| Filename: |
exerpts_of_IS_1498_and_MORTH_for_some_guidlines_on earth_filling.doc |
| Filesize: |
379 KB |
| Downloaded: |
31 Time(s) |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
bkkk Wise Person


Joined: 25 Mar 2009 Posts: 57
|
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:19 pm Post subject: Soil for filling |
|
|
Sir
It appears that soil type 1 is better than type 2 soil as the former contains lesser amounts of silt and clay. The swelling properties of clay may spoil the floor resting above. Hence it is prudent to avoid clayey materials and to go for non cohesive materials like sand even for filling purposes.
Er. Balaji venkateswaran
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
sspawar SEFI Stars


Joined: 05 Jun 2009 Posts: 550
|
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:15 pm Post subject: Re: Soil for filling |
|
|
| bkkk wrote: | Sir
It appears that soil type 1 is better than type 2 soil as the former contains lesser amounts of silt and clay. The swelling properties of clay may spoil the floor resting above. Hence it is prudent to avoid clayey materials and to go for non cohesive materials like sand even for filling purposes.
Er. Balaji venkateswaran |
Dear Balaji,
- In the same report Free Swelling Index of a sample is more (25%>20%), having lesser amount of clay (14.00%<49%), then which property you will follow?
- Below Base PCC of RCC Floor, High CBR material is required.
- With the shown properties of above samples , its CBR should be around 7. It depends on the dicsertion of approval authority what short of material layer of what thickness he needs below PCC.
- Here for back fill purposes both sample are within the permissible criteria.
Please go through the respective clauses of the specifications attached in my previous post.
Regards
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
|