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softech SEFI Member
Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Posts: 7
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Posted: Fri May 23, 2003 6:50 am Post subject: Daily Digest Thu May 22 23:00:01 2003 |
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Dear All, Regarding the reply given by Mr.Shekhar Panandiker,Consulting Structural Engineer of Goa, I wish to inform that I have more than 20 Years of consultancy experience in addition to 6 years of Research and Development Experience. Even then we are paid only Rs.1 - to Rs.1.50 per sq.feet as fees,which works out to only 0.25% of RCC construction(assuming it to be Rs.500-600 per sq.ft.). It is because we have to compete with several persons such as: Engg. college Professors and Scientists in Research Organizations(which do consultancy on a regular basis since the Govt. is not fully supporting their activities), Engineers employed in Govt. Organizations(many of them do part time work at a very low fees since their bread and butter is met by their salary- They also have lot of spare time since Govt. offices are over-staffed and have less work to do in the office except a few!), Ofcourse other Consulting firms, Diploma holders, Architects(who think they can design themselves), Masons, etc. Due to this we can't insist on our rates,since a person is always available for the client who can do the work at much cheaper rate. Unfortunately, no one bothers about Quality of work and does not care about qualification or experience. Please read my article on the above subject which was published in Civil Engineering and Const. Review,Oct 2002, pp.47-51. I also support the Petition given to Rajya Sabha related to the Chartered / Professional Engineer Certification . I would like to thank Er. Suraj Singh for taking the initiative. But I also feel that the Institution of Engineers ( I ) should takeup this matter seriously and clarify to the members the validity of Chartered Engineer and Professional engineer Certificates. Dr.N.Subramanian, Ph.D., P.E., F. ASCE, Computer Design Consultants, Chennai 600 017
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himali.joshi SEFI Member
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Posted: Fri May 23, 2003 9:29 am Post subject: Daily Digest Thu May 22 23:00:01 2003 |
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Dear Shekhar Panandiker
Apart form the Project Cost, what are the other factors, on which the Consultancy Fees can be determined? Can it be Lump Sum? As far as my knowledge is concerned, fees can be determined on various factors such as Direct and Indirect cost (Overheads, Staff Remuneration, etc). How do one arrive at 1% to 3% of total project cost? can you please throw some light on it?
Himali Bhatt
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Raju.Malagi SEFI Member
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Posted: Fri May 23, 2003 2:41 pm Post subject: Daily Digest Thu May 22 23:00:01 2003 |
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Dear Himali Bhatt, Fees to be paid depends on the quantum of work that a client expects from the consultant. For example - some clients ask only for a structural design as they have inhouse teams to carry out supervision. Whereas at some points we have to carry out exhaustive work like preparation of tender, finalisation of rates of the contractors, checking of the contractors bills etc. apart from preparing design drawings.Generally the total coast of a project is arrived by taking the toatl built up area into the construction cost. The construction cost depends on the type of specifications of the materials that are used.eg. for a noraml residential block with standard specifications, the cost per square metre works out to around Rs.6500 to Rs. 7000/-Sq. Mts. The real problem in our profession, as correctly pointed out by Dr. Subramanian is hiring of egineers in govt. service or some under qualified people who normaly carry out such jobs at very very low rates & hence clients are normally not inclined to pay structural consultants their dues. I hope i have clarified your doubts.
Shekhar Panandiker, Consulting Structural engineer, Goa.
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