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Daily Digest Sun Aug 22 23:00:03 2004

 
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 2:49 am    Post subject: Daily Digest Sun Aug 22 23:00:03 2004 Reply with quote

23 August, 2004

Re.: Treacherous grounds for structural engineers
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What happened to Sangeeta has happened to us, more than once. We lost a job after preparing all architectural drawings (we are a combined architectural & engineering practice) because I wanted to provide RCC shear walls on the external perophery. Structurally, the building was 10-storeyed in seismic zone V, with more than one storey height below ground, and one mezzanine floor, some geometrical irregularities, and large column free spaces to give the builder good saleable spaces. I could not convince the builder that shear walls are not expensive. The building was later designed by a team led by a retired principal of an engineering college,the main designer being now a chief engineer of the State PWD, with purely moment resisting frames. I still don't know how they did it, except by over-reinforcing the beams and columns, which, as we all know, is dangerous. The second case was of a builder who said he had found a consultant who would use only 20 kg. of rebars per sq.m. against our 45-50 kg. The private sector does not want safe buildings -- it only wants cheap buildings. If anything, all the available money is to be spent on finishes, not on safety. And, there are some half baked (but potentially lethal) civil engineers in our country who help such people to realis their dreams.

Indrajit Barua
(ibarua@deguild.com)

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 3:59 am    Post subject: Daily Digest Sun Aug 22 23:00:03 2004 Reply with quote

I think that the only solution to the problem stated by Ms Sangeeta Wij is
inculcating high moral values and ethics in structural engineers.
Unfortunately these are not taught at the college level.

Bimal Shah
MSU, Baroda
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Dear friends,

All sefians need to stand by Sangeeta.Suggest ways pl.

regards,

p kadam

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:40 am    Post subject: Daily Digest Sun Aug 22 23:00:03 2004 Reply with quote

Dear all,

Do not accept assignment to review design/dwg of other structural Engineers without their participation &amp; also keep your design/dwg always open for review if client so desires but of course with your participation.In a way it would cost client less if there is participation from original designer since efforts would be double otherwise.

regards,

P Kadam



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Date: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 9:17 am

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I think that the only solution to the problem stated by Ms
Sangeeta Wij is
inculcating high moral values and ethics in structural engineers.
Unfortunately these are not taught at the college level.

Bimal Shah
MSU, Baroda

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