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WHAT TO DO WITH THE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN CWG

 
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:12 am    Post subject: WHAT TO DO WITH THE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN CWG Reply with quote

Dear Sefians

you all might be knowing that what is happening in New Delhi for the sake of CWG .....
In organising this event, involved people have nothing to do with sports and Indian pride .....but they want just to make money by looting common people .......
but we are not doing anything ...why ?
during british there were too many people to oppose but ..in this era no one is coming in front ....including me
what to do .....
i want some answer from seniors.....& scholars

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Sefians

it is very sad to see that many sefian read this topic but they did not revert back or replied .......

it seems quite ok that now a days peoples are so selfish that they gives priority of their personal life against country ........

now in india there is no bhagat singh and not any azad & ghandhi ....all are just selfish individuals...

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Er Shiven,

What is the use of discussing it here. We have to elect good people; unfortunately good persons are not standing in the election or defeated by money power and thug power. In every country the politicians are in the pockets of business people- who are prepared to bend the law for the sake of profits and do not bother about people or the environment.

Take the case of the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico. Initially they said that around 1000 barrels of oil are leaking. Later  a scientist from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration had concluded that oil is leaking at the rate of 5,000 barrels a day, not 1,000 as had been estimated. Now US government experts say that the oil had been pouring out at a rate of 62,000 barrels a day -- more than 12 times faster than BP originally admitted.

This was higher than any previous official estimate, and meant 4.9 million barrels of crude -- more than 205 million gallons -- spewed into the Gulf in the 87 days it took to cap it, making it the biggest ever marine spill.

Thousands of birds and other animals are known to have been damaged or killed by the spill, a relatively modest toll given the scale of some other oil disasters that killed millions of animals. Efforts are still under way in Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and Florida to clean up more than 600 miles of oiled shoreline. The government and BP collected 35,818 tons of oily debris from shorelines.

In addition to the oil, 6.5 million litres of chemical dispersant has been sprayed into the Gulf of Mexico. BP has been using two types of dispersant - Corexit 9500A and Corexit 9527A - which are both composed mostly of detergents, and share many of their ingredients with household cleaning products. The Govt. officials gave permission to BP to spray these harmful chemicals, as and when BP requested. The combined effect of these chemicals and oil on marine  life as well as humans eating fish from ocean is not yet known!

Dr Susan Shaw, a marine toxicologist with 30 years of experience says that "corals, which are home to about 25 per cent of the world's marine species, are very sensitive to the combination of Corexit and oil. In the presence of oil only, there's 98 per cent fertilisation. In the presence of a mixture of Corexit and oil, there is 0 per cent fertilisation of corals"Testifying before a Senate Committee on July 15, Larry Robinson from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said that seafood coming out of the Gulf was not being tested for Corexit. Nevertheless, the US Food and Drug Administration has declared Gulf fish and shellfish safe to eat.

Congressman Nedler summed up this as "We may have destroyed life in the whole Gulf of Mexico for the next couple hundred years. We don't know yet."

It may be interesting to note that the Environmental Protection Agency of USAA has since revealed it was under pressure to declare the air safe, after the 9/11 incident, by then president George W Bush, particularly the area around Wall Street.

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Subramanian
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Dear Sefians

it is very sad to see that many sefian read this topic but they did not revert back or replied .......

it seems quite ok that now a days peoples are so selfish that they gives priority of their personal life against country ........

now in india there is no bhagat singh and not any azad & ghandhi ....all are just selfish individuals...

thanks
regards
shivendra kumar
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:17 pm    Post subject: What can we do? Reply with quote

What can we do?
True that people should elect good performing representatives. But unfortunately, people like us rarely vote & prefer to make picnic day on polling day.
Also, CWG must have involved hundreds of engineers to execute the works. How far these have been responsible for the whole mess, has not been discovered yet?
Mass awareness is required to arrest the corruption & corrupt politics.
Until people in general do not rise, very little can be done against these evils.
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[quote="drnsmani"]Dear Er Shiven,

What is the use of discussing it here. We have to elect good people; unfortunately good persons are not standing in the election or defeated by money power and thug power. In every country the politicians are in the pockets of business people- who are prepared to bend the law for the sake of profits and do not bother about people or the environment.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 11:52 am    Post subject: WHAT TO DO WITH THE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN CWG Reply with quote

GAMES must be held successfully - - - every Indian's wish
But  
Why wastage of much needed wealth by the Country in the name of  
Common Wealth . Why so much show off. Games could be held
without extra show off .There was no need for over- expenditure to
project India beyond its real existence.The mandatory expenditures  
for stadiums, players and guests could have not exceeded the  
allocated budget by fifteen - twenty times as per media reports.
Such a scenario is the greatest opportunity for Corrupt.

He is my friend, everyone knows
but if he cheats somebody , it is shameful to me.

Corruption will damage Indians image everywhere and  
purpose of holding games is defeated at the very outset.

Who is shameful - - -.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 3:41 am    Post subject: sir Reply with quote

Dear Sir ,

we are among  top 10% of  Indian population ........

and we have to take responsibility of  mental and moral improvement of society ...
if we will not take any initiative then who will take .....we are civilians ...and every creatures and structures will depicit our era ...and due to these corruption and corrupt people we should not take a back seat .

sir in my opinion it is the place where this can be discussed because it is group of intelectuals and responsible person of society ......

structural engineering forum should not be to share only our knowledge but it should be also  to make awareness against corruption in our feild ...

i believe that with the support our group some positive initiatives can be taken ...

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greetings to ALL

I think we are excessively relaying on media reports...these news channel  in race of creating breaking news make things quite exaggerated.

The level of corruption and lake of facilities may not be so high as projected in media which is the common source of information to all ,so whatever you see in media may not be entirely correct....every time it is the common people like us who get easily influenced by such issue and suddenly we think about removing all problems......but be patient....

i think commonwealth games given delhi a complete make over which even in past 60 years it couldnt got....may be at higher price

i)Delhi metro >can u imagine life without it
ii)low floor buses ,many flyovers etc
iii)facilities which made city better than 5 years ago...
iv)development of NCR its a 100 year vision...

if people were not happy than why did they elected same government twice?? both in delhi and center...


so we should wait for result of any inquiry based on facts or else we will get same outcome like "FAKE ENCOUNTER OF ISHARAT JANHA " which after 3 years got confirmed by david headly in USA that she was a terrorist...

Lets hope that these games gives a glimpse of new INDIA to all foreign guests who come in this event.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 6:31 am    Post subject: CWG Expenditure Reply with quote

CWG Expenditure
Dear Eng Gaurav Maroo,
It is true that we have to depend on media reports for the time being but, there are reported references to RTI responses.
It is the duty of the Government & the CWG organiser to keep public informed about the approved budget as well as escalation in all respects. It is public money afterall.
There is no way to accept escalation by 700% in a couple of years. There was 7 years duration allowed for schedule which is quiet adequate to prepare for such games but, the system failed as a whole.
As far as inquiry is concerned, we all know about CBi & other agencies' reputatuions.
Issue has also be raised with full force in parliament & there is definitely unacceptable amount of expenditure not in line with CWG requirement.
It is well known that many structures have been removed just to rebuild them. Connaugh place is an example where excellent underpasses have been demolished for renovations.
Many good foot paths have been broken for what? These could be decorated otherwise. Money should be specnt in infrastructure to help the common men & not only for cars run.
All flyovers though not as a part of CWG, have been designed in such a way that there is no solution of relief from traffic congestion.
Employment allowed for non graduate persons for a salary of 90000 monthly who are related to officials.
Many suspensions have been ordered that is a clear evidence of malpractice.
By the time inquiry starts, in a couple of months, malpractising documents shall be managed by the culprits.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 6:31 am    Post subject: Re: sir Reply with quote

I think if there is no media..than this type of scam will never be known to the masses...there is smoke only when there is fire...

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:05 pm    Post subject: CWG & Epidemics Reply with quote

CWG & Epidemics
Due to failure of removing malba from various sites of CWG sope, these stockpiles have obstructed general life in Delhi while it rains. It happemed many times & traffic has effected badly.
Stagnation of water in pote holes as well in stockpiles have caused Dengue bacteria to breed. Everyday, hundreds of Dengue cases are being reported in various Delhi hospitals.
Should adverse situation continues, NCR would have to face the epidemic soon.
False data are being broadcast by the media.
Dengue threat is ecpected to continue up to Deepawali festival whem due to play
of  fire works, bacteria woul die but at tyhe cost of pollution.
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