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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 5:19 am    Post subject: State of construction Reply with quote

Agreeable proposition
It is not only for the professional to be competent but all trade involved should be properly trained. Just a minor example is requirement of concrete spacers around the elements. No proper attention is given by most of the engineers & workers.
Similarly, curing is not given proper attention as well & ther are many other example
It is also to be thought how to improve the inspection standards & related staff trained for that
Eng Suraj Singh

skjain@iitk.ac.in wrote:
Dear Colleagues:

It was shocking to hear on TV last night that part of a building of
Times of India under construction in Ahmedabad collapsed, possibly
killing many workers. It is not only tragic for the families of the dead
and injured but is also a sober reminder to all of us that all is not
well with our construction industry.

Only last year, a part of another commercial building under construction
in a prominent area of Ahmedabad had collapsed.

Both the above buildings must have been designed by "structural
engineers", constructed by "contractors" and supervised by the
"construction engineers". Hence, the responsibility lies with the
professionals associated with the construction industry.

Incidents like these should make us resolve to work harder for the
upliftment of our profession and following action points come to mind:

a) We resolve to do the best professional job regardless of how much is
the fees. There are no excuses allowed to a surgeon for doing an unsafe
surgery just because he agreed to a lower fees from a patient.

b) We stop complaining about other stackholders to express our
disappointments and frustrations. We must focus on what WE can do rather
than what others should do.

c) We refuse to undertake assignments for which we are not competent.

d) We help other professional colleauges and youngsters including
students in learning to be good professionals.

e) We assign a fraction of our time and income for our own professional
growth and the improvement of the profession generally.

This is my emotional outburst and is not meant to be a sermon to
colleagues on SEFI, since I feel rather disturbed with the incident. I
know that most of us must feel quite agitated with such incidents.

Best regards,

Sudhir Jain
IIT Kanpur

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 9:10 am    Post subject: State of construction Reply with quote

--- skjain@iitk.ac.in wrote:
Quote:
Dear Colleagues:

It was shocking to hear on TV last night that part
of a building of
Times of India under construction in Ahmedabad
collapsed, possibly
killing many workers. It is not only tragic for the
families of the dead
and injured but is also a sober reminder to all of
us that all is not
well with our construction industry.

Only last year, a part of another commercial
building under construction
in a prominent area of Ahmedabad had collapsed.

Both the above buildings must have been designed by
"structural
engineers", constructed by "contractors" and
supervised by the
"construction engineers". Hence, the responsibility
lies with the
professionals associated with the construction
industry.

Incidents like these should make us resolve to work
harder for the
upliftment of our profession and following action
points come to mind:

a) We resolve to do the best professional job
regardless of how much is
the fees. There are no excuses allowed to a surgeon
for doing an unsafe
surgery just because he agreed to a lower fees from
a patient.

b) We stop complaining about other stackholders to
express our
disappointments and frustrations. We must focus on
what WE can do rather
than what others should do.

c) We refuse to undertake assignments for which we
are not competent.

d) We help other professional colleauges and
youngsters including
students in learning to be good professionals.

e) We assign a fraction of our time and income for
our own professional
growth and the improvement of the profession
generally.

This is my emotional outburst and is not meant to be
a sermon to
colleagues on SEFI, since I feel rather disturbed
with the incident. I
know that most of us must feel  quite agitated with
such incidents.

Best regards,

Sudhir Jain
IIT Kanpur










Dear structural engr.friends                      
What has happened in A!bad needs not only to be
condemned but also to be investigated as to how such a
thing can happen after concern shown for proper design
and quality control as an afterthought of earthquake.I
had sent a mail sometime back giving instances of a
no. of 4/5 storied bldgs.withstanding 1997 EQ.in
jabalpur even  though they were not designed for
resistance to EQ.These have underreamed pile
foundations with pilecaps and framed superstructure.I
had also stressed the need of further research of such
bldgs.for their capability of EQ. resistance.I do not
know if any other friend has such an experience or if
any work is being done on this subject. with regards  
Er.G.D.Rao


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 4:18 am    Post subject: State of construction Reply with quote

Dear Engineers

Emotional conduct & thinking is not good for the professionals

Best attempt shall be to be clear of what one should do in profession

Engineers have to chart out how to make the involved parties work together to achieve the engineering products, the end user waits for

Unfortunately, over profit making target by the promoter is root of every problem & chalta hae approach has to be amended in all respects

Engineers have to think in affirmative terms of enforcement of requirements for which more practical input is necessary, more time devotion is demanded on the project.

Design & construction engineers shall have to coordinate all times

Architects shall have to amend their gross conduct which is really too difficult to achieve.

Designers should also realise the site practical problems & adopt experience based approach & not fully theoretical at every consideration


Eng Suraj Singh PE

ergdr@yahoo.co.in wrote:--- skjain@iitk.ac.in wrote:
Quote:
Dear Colleagues:

It was shocking to hear on TV last night that part
of a building of
Times of India under construction in Ahmedabad
collapsed, possibly
killing many workers. It is not only tragic for the
families of the dead
and injured but is also a sober reminder to all of
us that all is not
well with our construction industry.

Only last year, a part of another commercial
building under construction
in a prominent area of Ahmedabad had collapsed.

Both the above buildings must have been designed by
"structural
engineers", constructed by "contractors" and
supervised by the
"construction engineers". Hence, the responsibility
lies with the
professionals associated with the construction
industry.

Incidents like these should make us resolve to work
harder for the
upliftment of our profession and following action
points come to mind:

a) We resolve to do the best professional job
regardless of how much is
the fees. There are no excuses allowed to a surgeon
for doing an unsafe
surgery just because he agreed to a lower fees from
a patient.

b) We stop complaining about other stackholders to
express our
disappointments and frustrations. We must focus on
what WE can do rather
than what others should do.

c) We refuse to undertake assignments for which we
are not competent.

d) We help other professional colleauges and
youngsters including
students in learning to be good professionals.

e) We assign a fraction of our time and income for
our own professional
growth and the improvement of the profession
generally.

This is my emotional outburst and is not meant to be
a sermon to
colleagues on SEFI, since I feel rather disturbed
with the incident. I
know that most of us must feel quite agitated with
such incidents.

Best regards,

Sudhir Jain
IIT Kanpur










Dear structural engr.friends
What has happened in A!bad needs not only to be
condemned but also to be investigated as to how such a
thing can happen after concern shown for proper design
and quality control as an afterthought of earthquake.I
had sent a mail sometime back giving instances of a
no. of 4/5 storied bldgs.withstanding 1997 EQ.in
jabalpur even though they were not designed for
resistance to EQ.These have underreamed pile
foundations with pilecaps and framed superstructure.I
had also stressed the need of further research of such
bldgs.for their capability of EQ. resistance.I do not
know if any other friend has such an experience or if
any work is being done on this subject. with regards
Er.G.D.Rao


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