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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2017 9:49 am    Post subject: Re: Definition of Engineer-Diploma Reply with quote

Diploma in engineering does not amount to a qualified engineer status, but Ordinary supervisor-I am sure that it is known to you well-You just commented!

[quote="Cbkulkarni"]What about the Engineers who are Diploma Holders ?

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On 21-May-2017, at 5:01 PM, suraj <forum> wrote:


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            Dear Eng Rudra Nevatia

Engineer
RERA is an act of parliament
Whatever further state Acts should be, would be in line to these prime statutory provisions
This Act defines many terms, 'Engineer' being one of these
'Engineer' term cannot be defined varying from place to place
Once prime Act provides something, secondary State Act provision is superseded
In case, state intends to continue with its provisions, specific permission is required from president of this country per COI provisions
Professional designations are covered in Concurrent List, which priority goes to Central Act by operation of law
Rest construction of this term up to your understanding, as you wish
My little knowledge has explained my mind

      Rudra Nevatia wrote:                Sir,
In my opinion, model RERA draft is adapted and adopted by each state and not enforced by a central authority. Moreover, within each state, local bodies have their own bye laws which require registration of engineers in their jurisdiction. So it is status quo as far as engineers' licence is concerned.
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 7:15 am    Post subject: Management Engineer Reply with quote

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Management Engineer
Explanations
Promoter-
Personor body responsible for project in all respects

Buyers-
Ultimate end user for deliveries & to whom Promoter serves formally

Project Charter-               
Document approved by Promoter & all stake holders, giving complete description of projects, stake holders, plans, schedule, cost, all project engineering characteristics, all relevant risks & their solutions, & all other factors directly or indirectly impacting project

Engineer-
Independent professional employed by Promoter on whatever type of remunerations
Engineer further recommends/ appoints all specialist structural designers & others for project, which appointment can be made through Promoter’s & designer’scontract

Resident Engineer-
Professional employed by Engineer to work for total supervision on project, but on complete risk of engineer & promoter

Design Structural Engineer Site-
Engineer employed engineer to work on specific discipline for site issues & site supervisions with dedicative approach

All other discipline engineer Site
These various discipline engineers are employed for direct detailed supervision of works

Contractor
A party appointed by Promoter to prosecute construction of project from commencement to completion  Conttractoris responsible for all constructions on site keeping control of all site management control parameters, such as cost, time & quality.
Contractor requires to deliver project per contract conditions, existing by & between Promoter& Contractor in line to FIDIC or NEC as suitable

Site Agent/Engineer-
Professional employed by contractor & approved by Engineer to work to carry out construction contract & to report to Resident Engineer & Engineer

Resident engineer job is to supervise all activities, conducted by contractor on site
Resident Engineer requires to issue Site Instruction
Engineer requires to issue Engineer’s Instructions, where cost constitutes variations
Without resident engineer approval, no payment can be made to contractor
Resident Engineer’s approval is not final, but Engineer can change it

Contractor submits to Resident Engineer all materials & drawings for purpose of approvalby Engineer

Engineer involves structural engineer & other specialist engineer for approval purpose

Notes
If structural engineer, who designed does not take supervision on site responsibilities, it must be made clear on structural drawings , by affixing a disclaimer to that extent or, else, structural engineer shall be considered responsible for supervision also

If per contract, Engineer authorizes Structural engineer to use its seal on designs, structural engineer assumes role of Engineer for purpose of structures & becomes responsible for all structures, in all respects

Engineercan use its own seal, if he himself is structural engineer
In case of mishap, Engineer is responsible in alliance with Promoter & allother responsible persons, such as structural engineer, Resident Engineer & site agent

Immediate actions shall be resorted to by police against all, when fatalities/casualties occur
Later,responsibility shall be fixed by investigating committee

Engineersshould be very selective for responsibilities, while dealing with whomsoever or shall land in legal problems & suffer for years

Do not accept any job without a written professional contract

Ensure that no condition works against your interest






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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 1:43 pm    Post subject: Engineer in RERA Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 11:57 pm    Post subject: RERA Engineer/Architect/Chartered Accountant Reply with quote

RERA Engineer/Architect/Chartered Accountant

State of Maharastra government published its state RERA

Refer to Section 3 within this state Act
It has stated that Project Engineer & Project Architect to submit cost release issues formats / certificates
This is not acceptable for these professionals are hired by Promoter & therefore partisans
There should be an independent Engineer for this purpose, who got no project relations with promote
Respecting CA, it has been mentioned that it shall be other than statutory auditor
Engineer should also, be other than Project Engineer as appointed by Promoter

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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2017 5:11 am    Post subject: Real Estate (Regulation and Development) Act, 2016 Reply with quote

Various States RERA as notified
Definition of Engineer not included within States RERA notifications

Real Estate (Regulation and Development)Act, 2016 is an Act of Parliament of India which seeks to protecthome-buyers as well as, help boost investments in real estate industry.
Bill was passed by Rajya Sabha on 10 March2016 and by Lok Sabha on 15 March 2016. Act came into force from 1 May2016 with 59 of 92 sections notified.
Remaining provisions will come into force from 1 May2017.
Central and state governments are liable to notify Rulesunder Act within a statutory period of six months
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_Estate_(Regulation_and_Development)_Act,_2016

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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2017 11:04 pm    Post subject: RERA Cost Format Indicative-Proposal Reply with quote

RERA Cost Format Indicative-Proposal
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 12:13 am    Post subject: RERA-Cost- Reply with quote

RERA-Cost
Withdrawal Sum From 70%
A contemplative thought to prevent over payment


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Whole project requires detailed costanalysis
All disciplines, normally arecalculated, depending on values of quantities
This worksheet is supportive pagefor gross data that can be obtained from separate details on other sheets
All components quantification requires to be done in details
All item rates require to be workedout, depending on market rates respecting material, workforce, equipment, sundries & overheads
All these unit rates worked out should be used to multiply quantities obtained in each case
Cost as obtained by this exercise should then be linked to cost column
This cost requires to be made in agreement with Promoter's professionals for indicative use to avoid dispute& once agreed, there shall be no change, without consent
Land cost should be imported from records
Expenses on all approvals should be imported from records
Planned % must be agreed on bar chart schedule in beginning, per allotted budget in line to quantities
Earned % shall be measured from site
Status means whether achievement is negative, on line or positive
Withdrawal sum each item to be worked out
All such sums to be added
Land parameters to be added
Approval parameters to be added
Withdrawal sum is obtained each month & continued every month
All details are projected month wise & used for comparison on project, whether or not progress is in line or measures are required
Clear concept is required
An experienced Chartered Engineer(India) can operate this format successfully


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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 12:17 pm    Post subject: Definition of Structural Engineering Reply with quote


Definition of Structural Engineering

There exists a degree of confusion among civil & structural engineers about definition of structural engineer job description scope
They expect not to do site related structural activities
But, definition includes site activities
If they do not do site works, they shall be called Design Engineers & not Structural Engineers


Overview

In 1908, Concrete Institute was founded as representative body for professions related to concrete; a relatively new material around that time. Institute was greatly received and quickly became an important voice across spectrum of construction industry, with its membership consisting of architects, engineers, chemists, manufacturers and surveyors.

In 1912, scope of Institute was widened to embrace all areas of structural engineering, particularly steel frames. "Structural engineering" was defined as "that branch of engineering, which deals with scientific design, construction and erection of structures of all kinds of material".This broader focus prompted change in name, which still remains; Institution of Structural Engineers.


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