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ramesh_surana
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 1:50 pm    Post subject: signing right Reply with quote

hi friend
i want to know when a person is eligible and has right to sign on design drawings.
i have done M. Tech. and also having two yrs. experience.
can i design private and sign on design .
please send detail abt legal things..
thanking u all

ramesh  


On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 vandana_bimal@eth.net wrote :
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Dear Mr. Kalgal

I agree with Mr. Ahuja in stating that unless the Architect gives a signed copy of his drawings, structural engineer should not give a signed copy of his drawings. The reason is that in case of a mishap (which happened during the Bhuj earthquake for one of the buildings in Surat when a well respected and an elderly Structural Engineer was held responsible for a building collapse. In fact the building was modified by removing one of the columns on the 8th storey for combining two flats.) even if you produce the Architectural drawings based on which you have designed the building, the Architect may deny the ownership of his own drawings which may not be compling the building bye-laws. In that case, the structural engineer can be in a soup.

Bimal Shah

[Dear SEFIans
I also do not see any harm in signing structural drawings irrespective of whether Architect signs his drawings or not. It may be prudent to put in one or more drawings (in the notes column) a sentence saying "the structural details are worked out as per the architect's inputs" and preserve the drawings issued by the architect safely.
kalgal
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 7:10 am    Post subject: signing right Reply with quote

Asking about legal rights to sign a drawings, it is advised not only for India but also internationally, one should be registered professionally & have reference number properly publically notifed. In India, one should be Chartered Engineer (India) for drawing these rights form Engineering Charter of India in statutory application.
One is not entitles to sign even if the person is Phd
Eng Suraj Singh PE

ramesh_surana@rediffmail.com wrote:
hi friend
i want to know when a person is eligible and has right to sign on design drawings.
i have done M. Tech. and also having two yrs. experience.
can i design private and sign on design .
please send detail abt legal things..
thanking u all

ramesh  


On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 vandana_bimal@eth.net wrote :
Quote:
Dear Mr. Kalgal

I agree with Mr. Ahuja in stating that unless the Architect gives a signed copy of his drawings, structural engineer should not give a signed copy of his drawings. The reason is that in case of a mishap (which happened during the Bhuj earthquake for one of the buildings in Surat when a well respected and an elderly Structural Engineer was held responsible for a building collapse. In fact the building was modified by removing one of the columns on the 8th storey for combining two flats.) even if you produce the Architectural drawings based on which you have designed the building, the Architect may deny the ownership of his own drawings which may not be compling the building bye-laws. In that case, the structural engineer can be in a soup.

Bimal Shah

[Dear SEFIans
I also do not see any harm in signing structural drawings irrespective of whether Architect signs his drawings or not. It may be prudent to put in one or more drawings (in the notes column) a sentence saying "the structural details are worked out as per the architect's inputs" and preserve the drawings issued by the architect safely.
kalgal
]







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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 5:06 pm    Post subject: signing right Reply with quote

Dear Ramesh,
It is unfortunate that in India we dont have any laws or regulations
regarding the signing powers of a structural engineer(in fact u must be
aware of the ongoing debate of licensing of engineers etc) and it will all
depend on how things shape up in the near future(whether the engineer's bill
gets passed before WTO/GATS gets implemented or not and exactly what
conditions are laid down in the final BILL.Till then u can happily sign
without any problem (but make sure ur design and drgs are checked by some
one senior in ur office!)
Sangeeta Wij
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Quote:
hi friend
i want to know when a person is eligible and has right to sign on design
drawings.
i have done M. Tech. and also having two yrs. experience.
can i design private and sign on design .
please send detail abt legal things..
thanking u all

ramesh


On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 vandana_bimal@eth.net wrote :
Quote:
Dear Mr. Kalgal

I agree with Mr. Ahuja in stating that unless the Architect gives a signed
copy of his drawings, structural engineer should not give a signed copy of
his drawings. The reason is that in case of a mishap (which happened
during the Bhuj earthquake for one of the buildings in Surat when a well
respected and an elderly Structural Engineer was held responsible for a
building collapse. In fact the building was modified by removing one of
the columns on the 8th storey for combining two flats.) even if you
produce the Architectural drawings based on which you have designed the
building, the Architect may deny the ownership of his own drawings which
may not be compling the building bye-laws. In that case, the structural
engineer can be in a soup.

Bimal Shah

[Dear SEFIans
I also do not see any harm in signing structural drawings irrespective of
whether Architect signs his drawings or not. It may be prudent to put in
one or more drawings (in the notes column) a sentence saying "the
structural details are worked out as per the architect's inputs" and
preserve the drawings issued by the architect safely.
kalgal
]


















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