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ALOSNL SEFI Member

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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 10:56 am Post subject: Crane load |
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Dear Sir
In continuation with the view points of Mr. Jignesh Shah I would like to point out that neither in the earlier IS:800 nor in the newly drafted IS:800 has any provision of relative displacement of the top of rail while the crane is in operation.
In industry buildings with high crane capacity relative displacement of the top of rail becomes a critical aspect from serviceability point of view.
A definite recommendation in this regard in given by the Russian Code of practice is reproduced below with heavy service conditions. Refer Clause No. 10.7 & Table46 of SNiP II - B.3-72
1> H/2500 (with plane structural scheme) 2> H/4000 (with 3D structural scheme)
where , H = Height of column from u/s of column to the top of crane rail
It has been observed the above clauses make the frame very heavy and thereby uneconomic. So the plant owners for smooth serviceability of crane and to reduce vibration have restricted the relative displacement to 10mm to 15mm.
So Iwould request the Committee members of IS:800 to introduce a clause which will be a guideline for the relative displacement of the top of the rail.
Regards
ALOKES GUHA L&T - SARGENT & LUNDY LTD.- BARODA E-Mail : alosnl@ltecd.ltindia.com Phone : 02652772390 (Ext 5504)
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| ************************************************* SEFI e-Conference on draft revision of IS:800, October 06 to 18, 2003 *************************************************
Dear Sir,
Present Steel design code IS:800:1984 is having guidelines for crane load combinations (Article 3.4.2.4). Requirement of this provision was necessary in year 1984 since at that time prevailing loading standard IS:875:1964 did not have similar provisions. In subsequent revision IS:875 part 2 -1987 cl.6.4 introduced similar provisions with little more elaboration.
Hence, IS:800 provisions have become superfluous and shall be removed from subsequent revisions. To my surprise I find that IS:800 draft code has retained original provisions.
A close look at both brings out small difference between two
Footnote below article 6.4.3.2 of IS:875 states "Lateral surge force .....However, if there is only one crane in the bay, the lateral and longitudinal forces may act together simultaneously with vertical loads"
On the other hand in Draft version of IS:800 article 3.5.4 talks about lateral and longitudinal loads not to act simultaneously and has no such rider for one crane in the bay situation.
In my opinion , crane load combination shall be left for IS:875 to decide and shall be removed from IS:800 which essential is for steel structure design. Also any future revision in IS:875 may create further anomalies between two provisions.
I would appreciate learned SEFI forum members to provide their views.
Thanks,
Jignesh
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