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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2003 6:31 pm    Post subject: Welcome to E-conference! Reply with quote

Dear All,
Welcome to the first e-conference organized by the Structural Engineers Forum of India (SEFI)!

SEFI is indeed very happy to host the e-conference “Licensing issues in Structural Engineering Profession in the Indian Context” (March 24 – 28, 2003) and is thankful to the Babtie-ADB capacity building technical assistance project in Gujarat, and to the Gujarat State Disaster Management Authority (GSDMA) for sponsoring the same. It is wonderful that we can all participate in a conference while still safely ensconced in our home or office environs and discuss the matter of licensing of engineers that of late has been a topic of much debate and discussion.

We had earlier moderated the e-conference on “Professional Issues in Structural Engineering in India (Aug 26-31 2002) organized by the National Information Centre of Earthquake Engineering (www.nicee.org). The participants highlighted the present environment of poor compliance to codes and good engineering practices, degrading standards of engineering education, and lack of any monitoring or implementing systems in India. They expressed overwhelming support for a competency based licensing system for structural engineers.

In the first week of December 2002 an international workshop –``Professional Issues for Earthquake Safety of Built Environment`` – was organized at Mumbai by the World Seismic Safety Initiative and Gujarat Ambuja: this conference too echoed the same concerns and focused on the need for an examination  based licensing system for structural engineers. A Blue Ribbon Committee was formed by this conference to study the registration of professional engineers in India.

There has been some activity on the part of the Engineers Council of India to bring forth an Engineer’s Bill which would pave the way for a possible licensing system for engineers in the future. However, the ECI envisages licensing of all engineers, not just structural engineers and it may take a while before the bill is tabled in the parliament.

As a reponse to the January 26th 2001 earthquake, the state of Gujarat is exploring the possibility of introducing a state level licensing system for structural engineers. If indeed this goes through it could be a testing ground for other states and for the country as a whole.

With the above context, it is very important to have exchange of views by a large number of structural engineers on this important issue, and SEFI is the right forum to provide this platform. We invite all of you to brainstorm on this topic. Some of the questions that arise are:

     -Is licensing of structural engineers desirable?
     -Who should do the licensing?
     -Mode of issuing license (e.g., examination, experience, interview, a       combination)?
     -Funding for the licensing project.
-Road map to licensing.

We look forward to a very vigorous discussion during the week that could make significant contributions to the efforts underway in our country in this direction.

To post a message, send an email to: econf@sefindia.org

With best regards,

Alpa Sheth and Sudhir K Jain

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2003 4:31 am    Post subject: Welcome to E-conference! Reply with quote

Hello there!

I have this on the mode of issuing the license

1. the basic engineering degree/post graduate degree. (When I was in Bahrain
some years ago, only those who had a masters degrree were allowed to
practice design. In India, however, graduate engineers are capable and
competent enough to design and learn and acquire expertise through work
and/or continuing education programmes.)
2. the experience. Here, the criteria should be not the number of years
spent in designing but on the kinds os structures designed. Like our friend
Upendra from Pune said a person experienced in multi storey buildings should
be licensed only for multi-storey building because his experience of 10
yeras could be just a years multiplied by ten. Whereas, a person with lesser
number of  years of experience but with a wider experience- bulildings,
industrial plants, roads, ESRs, could be licensed for more than one type of
structure.
3. Level. The one with 10 years of experience in one particular type of
design is likely to have mastery over his work whereas the one with a wider
experience is likely to have a lower level of expertise in each type of the
structures. The license should indicate the level of expertise and restict
the engineer from going beyond his level of expertise.
4. most importantly, PROFESSIONAL PRACTICE AND ETHICS. This has to be on the
basis of a written examination and interview. This is the most important
factor because this will certify that the guy knows how to conduct
engineering. I invite more thought and discussion on this.

Alok Banerjee
Mumbai
( work overseas)






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From: econf-mod@sefindia.org
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To: alok_banerjee@hotmail.com
Subject: [ECONF] Welcome to E-conference!
Date: Mon Mar 24 00:01:34 2003

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Dear All,
Welcome to the first e-conference organized by the Structural Engineers
Forum of India (SEFI)!

SEFI is indeed very happy to host the e-conference “Licensing issues in
Structural Engineering Profession in the Indian Context” (March 24 – 28,
2003) and is thankful to the Babtie-ADB capacity building technical
assistance project in Gujarat, and to the Gujarat State Disaster Management
Authority (GSDMA) for sponsoring the same. It is wonderful that we can all
participate in a conference while still safely ensconced in our home or
office environs and discuss the matter of licensing of engineers that of
late has been a topic of much debate and discussion.

We had earlier moderated the e-conference on “Professional Issues in
Structural Engineering in India (Aug 26-31 2002) organized by the National
Information Centre of Earthquake Engineering (www.nicee.org). The
participants highlighted the present environment of poor compliance to
codes and good engineering practices, degrading standards of engineering
education, and lack of any monitoring or implementing systems in India.
They expressed overwhelming support for a competency based licensing system
for structural engineers.

In the first week of December 2002 an international workshop
–``Professional Issues for Earthquake Safety of Built Environment`` – was
organized at Mumbai by the World Seismic Safety Initiative and Gujarat
Ambuja: this conference too echoed the same concerns and focused on the
need for an examination  based licensing system for structural engineers. A
Blue Ribbon Committee was formed by this conference to study the
registration of professional engineers in India.

There has been some activity on the part of the Engineers Council of India
to bring forth an Engineer’s Bill which would pave the way for a possible
licensing system for engineers in the future. However, the ECI envisages
licensing of all engineers, not just structural engineers and it may take a
while before the bill is tabled in the parliament.

As a reponse to the January 26th 2001 earthquake, the state of Gujarat is
exploring the possibility of introducing a state level licensing system for
structural engineers. If indeed this goes through it could be a testing
ground for other states and for the country as a whole.

With the above context, it is very important to have exchange of views by a
large number of structural engineers on this important issue, and SEFI is
the right forum to provide this platform. We invite all of you to
brainstorm on this topic. Some of the questions that arise are:

     -Is licensing of structural engineers desirable?
     -Who should do the licensing?
     -Mode of issuing license (e.g., examination, experience, interview, a      
combination)?
     -Funding for the licensing project.
-Road map to licensing.

We look forward to a very vigorous discussion during the week that could
make significant contributions to the efforts underway in our country in
this direction.

To post a message, send an email to: econf@sefindia.org

With best regards,

Alpa Sheth and Sudhir K Jain




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e-Conference on ``Licensing Issues in Structural Engineering profession
in the Indian context`` organised by Structural Engineers Forum of India
(http://www.sefindia.org) under the aegis of
aegis of Babtie Technical Assistance Team as a part of the ADB Technical
Assistance Project for Capacity Building for Earthquake Rehabilitation and
Reconstruction and Gujarat State Disaster Management Authority

The views, opinions,  analyses and assessments contained herein do not
necessarily reflect the views of SEFI and the Asian Development Bank, or
its Board of
Directors or the governments they represent.

SEFI and the Asian Development Bank does not guarantee the accuracy of the
data included in the proceedings of this e-conference  and accepts no
responsibility for any consequences of their use.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2003 12:11 pm    Post subject: Welcome to E-conference! Reply with quote

Dear Participants,
I am glad to note that some initiatives are (atleast now!) being taken to license structural engineers. Structural engineering is a very important field and Structural engineers give life to all kinds of structures. Without them the structures may not be safe or pose lot of serviceability problems. But unfortunately, they are not respected in the society like Architects (who provide only planning and cosmetic look to the structures). Also their fees is about one eighth to one tenth of that received by Architects. One solution to this problem is to give
license to Structural Engineers. By this we will also eliminate many  unqualified people during structural designs( I know many Mechanical engineers as well as Architects doing Structural design).

Licensing is not a very new concept. It is being practised abroad. For example any one in USA in order to practise, has to write the P. E. Examination. We can start a similar exam here. In order to practise, Engineers should also continuously attend courses or seminars. It is because what you learn in university becomes obsolete in a few years, especially in today's environment. Similar things are being done by the American Society of Civil engineers.

I wish the conference grand success.
Dr.N.Subramanian,
Computer design Consultants,
Chennai

econf-mod@sefindia.org wrote:

Quote:
<<<--------- Header Text goes here -------->>>

Dear All,
Welcome to the first e-conference organized by the Structural Engineers Forum of India (SEFI)!

SEFI is indeed very happy to host the e-conference “Licensing issues in Structural Engineering Profession in the Indian Context” (March 24 – 28, 2003) and is thankful to the Babtie-ADB capacity building technical assistance project in Gujarat, and to the Gujarat State Disaster Management Authority (GSDMA) for sponsoring the same. It is wonderful that we can all participate in a conference while still safely ensconced in our home or office environs and discuss the matter of licensing of engineers that of late has been a topic of much debate and discussion.

We had earlier moderated the e-conference on “Professional Issues in Structural Engineering in India (Aug 26-31 2002) organized by the National Information Centre of Earthquake Engineering (www.nicee.org). The participants highlighted the present environment of poor compliance to codes and good engineering practices, degrading standards of engineering education, and lack of any monitoring or implementing systems in India. They expressed overwhelming support for a competency based licensing system for structural engineers.

In the first week of December 2002 an international workshop –``Professional Issues for Earthquake Safety of Built Environment`` – was organized at Mumbai by the World Seismic Safety Initiative and Gujarat Ambuja: this conference too echoed the same concerns and focused on the need for an examination  based licensing system for structural engineers. A Blue Ribbon Committee was formed by this conference to study the registration of professional engineers in India.

There has been some activity on the part of the Engineers Council of India to bring forth an Engineer’s Bill which would pave the way for a possible licensing system for engineers in the future. However, the ECI envisages licensing of all engineers, not just structural engineers and it may take a while before the bill is tabled in the parliament.

As a reponse to the January 26th 2001 earthquake, the state of Gujarat is exploring the possibility of introducing a state level licensing system for structural engineers. If indeed this goes through it could be a testing ground for other states and for the country as a whole.

With the above context, it is very important to have exchange of views by a large number of structural engineers on this important issue, and SEFI is the right forum to provide this platform. We invite all of you to brainstorm on this topic. Some of the questions that arise are:

-Is licensing of structural engineers desirable?
-Who should do the licensing?
-Mode of issuing license (e.g., examination, experience, interview, a       combination)?
-Funding for the licensing project.
-Road map to licensing.

We look forward to a very vigorous discussion during the week that could make significant contributions to the efforts underway in our country in this direction.

To post a message, send an email to: econf@sefindia.org

With best regards,

Alpa Sheth and Sudhir K Jain

*******************************************
e-Conference on ``Licensing Issues in Structural Engineering profession in the Indian context`` organised by Structural Engineers Forum of India (http://www.sefindia.org) under the aegis of
aegis of Babtie Technical Assistance Team as a part of the ADB Technical Assistance Project for Capacity Building for Earthquake Rehabilitation and Reconstruction and Gujarat State Disaster Management Authority

The views, opinions,  analyses and assessments contained herein do not
necessarily reflect the views of SEFI and the Asian Development Bank, or its Board of
Directors or the governments they represent.

SEFI and the Asian Development Bank does not guarantee the accuracy of the data included in the proceedings of this e-conference  and accepts no responsibility for any consequences of their use.
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To make a posting to the e-conference, please send  email to econf@sefindia.org
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To unsubscribe, please send an email to unsubscribe-econf@sefindia.org
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